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|mathrick||Seems to be more official than plain ~[なくて] form. AFAIK, it's quite often used in writing.|| |
|Shadowstar||Vn-zu seems to be the same article, except with more examples and so on, and placed in the level 2 entries...|| |
|誠||you can also shorten 〜ずに into 〜ず.|
Don't forget to ask in return. (Example: "How are you?" "Fine, thanks. And you?")
This is from a Japanese English teacher's lesson.
|K||〜ずに is the shortened form of 〜ないで|| |
|shiho-chan||Isnt 〜ずに A more formal form, not a contraction?|| |
|sw||I think ず is a classical form of ない that still comes up, as in 知らず. 〜ずに means 〜ないで, and is used mostly in writting, although I heard it spoken sometimes.|| |
|bamboo4||It may of interest to note that in some dialect, 行かず would mean 行こう(let's go).|
|ngonhan2k7||行かず maybe 行きませんか so sw are right,ず 〜＝ ない|| |
|nellyaudrey||how do you say the negative version of 食べず is it 食べずじゃない? just for the purpose of saying something like, i didn't come to school without eating. 学校に食べずじゃないで来た．or would you just neg kuru? like, 学校を食べずに来なかった．|| |
You can' t do a negative of a negative form in Japanese. You'll only be mishunderstood. The Japanese are more simple minded. The negative of a negative is positive, so say it positive! 朝ご飯食べて学校に来ました。I came to school having eaten breakfast.
Anyway, if you want to say your negative-negative sentence at any cost the closer sentence you can use is a negation of the all positive sentence. 朝ご飯食べずに学校に来ましたと違います.It's not true that I came to school without eating breakfast.