て形からでないと; て形からでなければ [てからでないと; てからでなければ] (tekaradenaito; tekaradenakereba)
Meaning: Not Until 〜;If I don't 〜, I can't 〜; I can't 〜 unless I 〜.
Example: If I don't consult my boss, I cannot give a reply.
JLPT Level: 2
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|The following sentence is always negative.|| |
|「Ａてからでないと、Ｂ」: B should use phrases such as 「できない」、「難しい」、「無理だ」.|
Ｖて + からでないと・からでなければ
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|dc||sometimes used for denial|| |
|anon||How would this be different from just using an "if" form with a negative verb (-ba, -tara, to)? For example, could we just say 上司に相談しないとお返事できません?|| |
|bamboo4||上司に相談しないとお返事できません or 上司に相談しないでお返事できません are both grammatically correct, but they are more or less blunt response when compared with 上司に相談してからでないとお返事できません.|| |
|Ludi||I have the feeling that the meaning is close to "nai kagiri" in this case >> |
What do you think about it?
|rubyhatchet||anon: You could probably say it with the same connotation if you add just a bit more. Example: 先に上司に相談しないと、お返事できません。|| |
|rubyhatchet||Ludi, かぎり is more meant to express "As long as A continues, B will continue." It's more of a positive grammar than a negative one. It could work, but it would sound awkward: "As long as I don't consult with my boss, I can't give you an answer."|| |
|xabre24||So by using 〜てからでなければ instead of simply using 〜ば, you are being more emphatic? Would this be similar to the difference between から and からこそ？|| |
|sagittarius||〜てからでなければ sounds very much like something you would see only in writing. Can you colloquialise to 〜てからじゃなければ？|| |
|kurisutofu||In example #6894, 考える is translated to "teach" while it should be "think".|
Unless the sentence should contain 教える.
|赤毛||Example #6894 corrected according to your alert.Thanks to Kurisutofuさん.|| |
|DrJones||Added proper meaning to help people see the difference in nuance between this and the "if" form.|| |
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