か〜ないかのうちに [か〜ないかのうちに] (kanaikanouchini)
Meaning: No sooner than; just as, at that instant
Example: just as the doors opened they rushed in
JLPT Level: 2
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|This grammar also gives the sense that X was not sure if action A had or hadn't occurred/started/finished before the subsequent action B commenced.|
(note copied from Groove note in sister entry "ka nai ka no uchi ni")
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|Amatuka||This usage seems to be fairly rare - most of the references to it are from Japanese grammar sites & similar.|| |
|dc||its usually used for a small instant of time.|| |
|dc||LIT: in the time between the doors not being open and them opening...|| |
|Miki||You would see this expression in written word. I don't often use this in a converation as I would bite my tongue. Instead I say, 電車のドアが開いた瞬間に、--。|| |
|Amatuka||I think this one should be good to go. Any problems or should we revise the check mark up?|| |
|bamboo4||I agree that 電車のドアが 開く か 開かないかのうちに is a mouthful and an ordinary Japanese would say 電車のドアが開いたかどうかのうちに. Recommend that this item is modified accordingly.|
|dc||bamboo - since that seems to be a different grammar construct, i added it as a new item kadoukanouchini and put miki's example there. This one should then be noted as "rare" - but it may turn up in the JLPT test...|| |
|Miki||ex# 4605 ぬ of ねいらぬかのうちに is the same meaning as ない. || |
|sagittarius||in these examples can か・・・かないこのうちに be replaced by かともうったら?|| |
|赤毛||I moved ex #, # and # from sister entry 〜か〜ないかのうちに. After that I changed # which was almost the same than #.|| |
|tigert||I think this grammar and the かどうかのうち should be in the same entry. This grammar is just a contracted form of かどうか.|
you could just add a note to the かどうか entry and save a little server space.
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