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どころか [どころか] (dokoroka)
    Meaning: far from A, in fact B; not just; even
    Example: Far from being nice, she is in fact an ogre.
    JLPT Level: 2
    Category: grammar
    Author: dc

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  Notes:  
In 「S1 どころか S2」, S1 indicates that someone or something is very far from an expected state. In S2 appears a situation quite different from the situation expressed in S1.

*Please look at the following table:
==S1===S2===EXAMPLE===MEANING
--Aff.---Aff.---# ----'not just; even'
--Aff.---Neg. --# ----'far from'
--Neg. --Aff.---# ----'far from'
--Neg. --Neg. --# ----'not just; even'

FORMATION:
V(plain form) + どころか
いA + どころか
なA・N + どころか
 
(rubyhatchet)

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ex #44   食べるどころか 
far from eating  
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(dc)
ex #143   私は彼があまり好きでなかった、それどころか憎んでさえいた。 
I didn't like him much, in fact I hated him.  
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(Amatuka)
ex #187   彼の奥さんは、やさしいどころか鬼のような人だ。 
his wife is far from being nice, she is like an ogre!  
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(dc)
ex #1160   「彼女は、まだ若いですね」 「いえ、若いどころか、もう孫が三人いるんですよ」 
- She is still quite young. - far from being young , she already has three grandchildren.  
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(dc)
ex #3256   間違いを指摘すると、感謝されるどころか、怒られた。 
When I pointed out his mistakes, far from thanking me, he got angry at me.  
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(Miki)
ex #3257   ダイエットしていたのに、痩せるどころか、太ってしまいました。 
I have been on a diet. But far from losing weight, I got fatter!  
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(Miki)
ex #4301   「おわったの」「それどころかまだ始めていないよ」  
Have you finished? "On the contrary, I have not even begun yet."  
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(dbx)
ex #4302   「終わったの」「それどころかまだ始めてもいないよ」  
"Have you finished?" "On the contrary I have not even begun yet."  
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(dbx)
ex #4303   1ドルどころか、1セントも持っていない。  
I don't have a cent, let alone a dollar.  
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(dbx)
ex #4304   IQの低さの原因を人種に求めるという議論を論駁するどころか、リンのデータはそれを事実上補強することになっている。  
Far from refuting the thesis that racism is to blame for lower IQ score, Lynn's data actually supports it.  
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(dbx)
ex #4305   あなたは、私はすることが何もないと思っているが、それどころかたいへん忙しいのです。  
You think I have nothing to do; but on the contrary, I am very busy.  
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(dbx)
ex #4306   あなたは仕事が気に入ってると思いますが。それどころか嫌いだ。  
I believe you like your job. On the contrary, I hate it.  
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(dbx)
ex #4307   この辞書は初級者に、いやそれどころか上級者にも役に立つ。  
This dictionary is useful to beginners, yes, and to advanced learners.  
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(dbx)
ex #4308   その絵は醜いとは思わない。それどころか、むしろ美しいと思う。  
That picture doesn't seem ugly to me; on the contrary, I think it's rather beautiful.  
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(dbx)
ex #4309   その手紙を読むどころか、彼は封も切らなかった。  
Far from reading the letter, he did not even open it.  
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(dbx)
ex #4310   それは、失敗どころか、大成功だった。  
Far from being a failure, it was a great success.  
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(dbx)
ex #4311   それもう終わった。それどころか、いまからだよ。  
Have you finished it? On the contrary, I've just begun.  
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(dbx)
ex #4312   ためになるどころか、その雨は収穫にひどい害を与えた。  
So far from doing any good the rain did a great deal of farm to the crop.  
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(dbx)
ex #4313   ちゅうちょするどころか彼女は喜んで私を援助してくれると言った。  
Far from hesitating, she willingly offered to help me.  
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(dbx)
ex #4314   ジャックが音楽が苦手なんてとんでもない、それどころか、ピアノを弾くのがうまい。  
It isn't true that Jack is no good at music : on the contrary, he plays the piano well.  
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(dbx)
ex #4315   トムは怠け者の少年ではありません。それどころかよく働きます。  
Tom is not a lazy boy. As a matter of fact, he works hard.  
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(dbx)
ex #4316   メアリーは貧しくはない。それどころか、かなり裕福だ。  
Mary is not poor. On the contrary, she is quite rich.  
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(dbx)
ex #4317   雨はやむどころかいよいよひどくなった。  
Instead of stopping, the rain increased.  
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(dbx)
ex #4318   我々の交渉は失敗どころか、大成功だった。  
Far from being a failure, our negotiation was a great success.  
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(dbx)
ex #4319   休養するどころかかえっていつもより仕事に励んだ。  
Instead of taking a rest, he worked much harder than usual.  
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(dbx)
ex #4320   今度の上司?個性的どころか、ありがちなタイプね。  
The new supervisor? He's not very original - pretty much like the rest.  
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(dbx)
ex #5942   彼は料理どころか音楽もスポーツもできる。 
He is good not only at cooking but also music and sports  
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(prashant007)
ex #6263   スミスさんは日本語の新聞が読めるどころか、平仮名も知らない。  
Mr. Smith is far from being able to read a Japanese newspaper; he doesn't even know hiragana.  
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(rubyhatchet)
ex #6264   ジョンャ唐ウんは漢字が書けないどころか、平仮名も書けない。  
Mr. Johnson is not just unable to write kanji; he cannot write even hiragana.  
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(rubyhatchet)
ex #6265   スミスさんは日本語が書けないどころか、日本語で小説が書けるぐらいだ。  
Mr. Smith is far from being unable to write Japanese; he can even write a novel in Japanese.  
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(rubyhatchet)
ex #6266   クラークさんは刺し身が食べられるどころか、納豆まで食べられる。 
Mr. Clark is not just able to eat sashimi; he can even eat natto.  
 [edit]  
(rubyhatchet)
ex #7171   けさの天気藍ナは午後から晴れると言っていた。ところが、藍ノ反して雨が降り続いている。 
According to this morning weather forecast the sky will be clear.but, . on the contrary of forecasting its raining now  
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(sureshnihon)
ex #7221   警察の必死の捜索にも関わらず、生存者 どころか、死体すら発見されていない。 
Despite an extensive police search, no bodies have been found; let alone survivors.  
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(Monte)
ex #8583   患者の体は立ち上げるどころか、座ることもできません。 
Never mind the the patient was standing, was not able to sit.  
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(belajar)
ex #8716    
 
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(Bayur)

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  Comments:  
Amatukaalso どころではなく 
VbkCould anyone give some more examples? I'm still not clear about どころか. 
MikiI am quite good at Japanese but I am not sure about my English. Please correct. 
dcchecked. thats the way this system should work, each checking native speakers... 
JennKonnichiwa:) Example 4320 uses the word 'arigachi'. Is that the verb 'arimasu' used with the ending 'gachi' that means 'tend to~'? 
laki-lauraI think "arigachi" is:
有り勝ち  (な形 名  frequent, usual, common)
 
petraThe English in # sounds funny. Please fix. 
bamboo4ex # The Engish sentence should be corrected to read: He is good not only at cooking but also music and sports  
bamboo4What often throw people off is that どころか can be used both in positive and negative sense. Compare: 彼は寿司どころか納豆も食べる (He can east not only sushi but even natto). 彼は納豆どころか寿司も食べられない (He cannot eat not only natto but even sushi). 
karekorawhat about 忙しくて、旅行するどころか、テレビを見る暇さえない。would be more like 'はもちろん' more than 'even'? 
dc# corrected 
gahoangdaiEx 4303’s Translation should be....01 Dollar!I do not have just even 01 Cent.
I do not know but this Sounds Better!
 
TetsuzanAccording to Dictionary of Japanese Grammar, どころか and ばかりか are quite similar in their meanings, however, in the case where the first clause is a negative and the second clause is positive (and vice versa), then どころか should be used preferentially over ばかりか。

However, can どころか really be used in cases where the clauses are either both negative or both positive??
 
RadishWell I added a comment on this with a lot of examples, but I guess it was too long. So it was automatically wiped. There was no warning. Not going to go to the trouble of writing it again.

Short form: "far from" has two problems:

1. it doesn't address the suppositional nature of dokoroga
2. it doesn't address sentences where the B part is in agreement with the A part. It only addresses the contrastive B points.

Even Unicom breaks this point into two. This is not necessary and just gives you more work to do.

I think of dokoroka as "There is a presumption that..." or "You might think that..." as the A part, and the B part is either an agreement or a contrast to the presumption/supposition.

You can use "Far from" as a translation for some contrasting B sentences, however it is not how you should be *thinking* about parsing this grammar point.
 

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